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Episode 307: "Dead Man's Hill"
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: Episode 307: "Dead Man's Hill" Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love a good western.

Hang Em High

An obvious homage to this old movie. Will Snow sure looks like 'the man with no name' in this one. The scene where he sits in the rocks after clobbering Challenger and before being pistol whipped by Ringo, they have a tight close-up. There's the Eastwood squint and sneer.

The Hanging Tree

Another old movie from my past. The focus of some great scenes-often in silhouette. Rather a frail-looking tree for such grisly goings-on.
There were other wonderful Western conventions: the characters themselves, the campfire breakfast, the gopher stew, burning out the farm, sending away the riderless horse, swapping lead in the hills.

Dust to Dust

Figuratively and literally. A lot of people bite the dust this episode. And the dust is everywhere. It smudges our view of the rescue, it discolours the black outfits of Johnny Ringo and Maylene, it's all over Challenger as he scrambles around his campsite and Roxton has to dust off his boots. Goodness knows it must fly through the cracks in that cabin of Maylene's; doesn't it get cold in Wyoming in the winter?

The widow Montgomery

I really had not expected that Ms Blakely could do such a wonderful job of playing a "timid little mouse". Her looks lead one to think she'd only thrive in more flamboyant roles. But that crooked little smile, the wide-eyed wonder, the soft voice, the plain speaking, the pleasure-filled face when Roxton awakes, the misery she displays when she tries to shoot him for the murder of the husband and can't; it makes her another person entirely from Marguerite. The scene where she describes her life
"I'm a rancher's wife... a rancher's widow .... These plains are where I'll live and die. All the rest is moonbeams and starshine, my Martin would say." I think that's just beautiful, sniff.

Best friends

Violet and Maylene demonstrate more closeness in five minutes than Veronica and Marguerite have in almost three years. Nice how Violet warns Roxton not to hurt Maylene and her dying words were touching.

Best of enemies

Ooh, Johnny Ringo is nasty (did anyone else have the old Lorne Green song rolling around in their head -a #1 hit in '64). After he gave the piano a flesh wound in an earlier scene, he put it out of its misery at the end. And he was so cute, why did people keep knocking him down and shooting him?
Challenger made a great sheriff- cunning and cruel. Must be a relative; his arrogance was his undoing in the end.

Miscellaneous

Roxton's leary of M's cooking even when it's not her -no wonder, gopher stew the colour of pea soup.
Nice to finally see the Red River Valley whistling sequence; I've heard so much about it.
Loved the way Johnny and Violet's guns dropped at the same time.
Roxton's face through the noose just before the fade back to the west -great on its own and very like the cover art for 'Hang Em High'.
Roxton's faith that if he could just reason with Challenger, he'd been their ticket home.
Roxton as tenderfoot -literally and figuratively.
Veronica: "Whiskey?"
Roxton: Maybe when we've sorted this out."
Veronica: You really aren't from around here, are you."

Great lines

"You walked some, I carried you some." (M)
"I don't have anywhere to go" (R)
"I lost my man.Nothing else matters after that." (M)
"There's treachery afoot. ... I won't let it fester." (C)
"I didn't have anything kind to say to her after that. So I left." (M)
"You're makin' me sorry I ever killed the doctor." (Johnny R) "I imagine he's sorry, too." (V)
"Don't kiss me again." (M)
"I never met the woman who could break my heart...(smile)...till I met Marguerite." (R)

"(The noose and tombstone appear in the jungle) where a good man might find it and set things to rights... in this world or the next."
Challenger's explanation at the end raises as many questions at it answers.
1. It seems to me that the pivotal action was not that of a good man but rather Maylene's soft heart for a man being hanged -right there the scene changed, the noose was broken. J Roxton was not hanged.
2. what does he mean by 'this world or the next'? heaven and hell? another life? the 'spirit world'?

One last thing. When Roxton suggests that he and Marguerite ride off into the sunset, didn't it seem that she was considering the possibility seriously?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good one, santa crux. Makes me want to dig out my DVDs and watch again. I haven't for a long while. Brought back some wonderful memories... including Lorne Greene's one and only hit record!

One of my favorite tags, the little discussion between Roxton and Marguerite on the seat by the window. Love her expression when she realizes that Maylene looked just like her.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First I have to say I loved Ned Malone with a 5 o'clock shadow. Really toughens him up. Put a smile on my face.

I also loved the relationship between him and "violet". Especially when he said something about her making him sorry he shot the doctor. Great line, and great come back from her. And after she shoots him he says, "women!". Cracked me up.

I thought it was so sweet the way Roxton spoke about Marguerite to Marlene. He really is mush when it comes to her.

Episodes like this that keep me hooked.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yeah, still a fav ... May have to break it out this evening .... Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always liked westerns, so I really liked the story of this episode (which is one of my favourite episodes from S3). I like the characters as well: Veronica as Violet, Malone as Johnny Ringo. M & R were great, but it was really hard for me to imagine Marguerite as Maylene (you know how different they are). But actually I prefer Challenger as a scientist, than a sheriff.

Santacrux, that was a really good one... you said everything about the episode. You're pretty good in wrighting. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Love it when Roxton says something like head for the high ground so we can make a stand, then they run out of ammo and him and marguerite jump of that cliff into the water that is great
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: The Kiss Reply with quote

The best part of this entire episode was the moment when Roxton kissed Mayline, trying to make her remember him. That has got to be the best kiss i have ever seen on tv and i'm not usually a woman giving into sighing, but oh, i sighed throughout that kiss! I'm sure all the women would agree with me. Rachel Blakely was a very lucky woman and so is Will Snow's wife. : )
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: The Kiss Reply with quote

outlaw24 wrote:
The best part of this entire episode was the moment when Roxton kissed Mayline, trying to make her remember him. That has got to be the best kiss i have ever seen on tv and i'm not usually a woman giving into sighing, but oh, i sighed throughout that kiss! I'm sure all the women would agree with me. Rachel Blakely was a very lucky woman and so is Will Snow's wife. : )



Oh my, that was a kiss...J&G loved tormenting us with "the characters kiss" but not who you think. They are bad Smile Welcome to the board!


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. Happy New Year to you too.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: The Kiss Reply with quote

outlaw24 wrote:
Rachel Blakely was a very lucky woman and so is Will Snow's wife. : )


Hehe, I agree with you on that one. ... Very Happy But who said Rachel's not lucky any more?! Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:34 pm    Post subject: Just don't get it Reply with quote

LOL.

The thing i don't get and have never been able to get my head around is how do two actors with such obvious chemistry on screen, are able to be 'just friends' off camera? I don't understand it. I know they are actors and it's there job and all, but i think it is very rare to see two people on screen with the so much chemistry and not too mention a couple that looks really good together like Rachel Blakely and Will Snow! I saw a couple of episodes of 'Tales of the South Sea', a tv series that only lasted for one season but starred Rachel and Will. There characters never got together but had such chemistry on that show as well. The only other couple on a tv show that had some smoldering chemistry was Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher, who played Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman.

I guess i'm too much of a romantic, wanting these people to get together in real life. No disrespect to the partners Will and Rachel have chosen. : )
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Just don't get it Reply with quote

outlaw24 wrote:
LOL.

The thing i don't get and have never been able to get my head around is how do two actors with such obvious chemistry on screen, are able to be 'just friends' off camera? I don't understand it. I know they are actors and it's there job and all, but i think it is very rare to see two people on screen with the so much chemistry and not too mention a couple that looks really good together like Rachel Blakely and Will Snow! I saw a couple of episodes of 'Tales of the South Sea', a tv series that only lasted for one season but starred Rachel and Will. There characters never got together but had such chemistry on that show as well. The only other couple on a tv show that had some smoldering chemistry was Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher, who played Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman.

I guess i'm too much of a romantic, wanting these people to get together in real life. No disrespect to the partners Will and Rachel have chosen. : )



Outlaw, you aren't the only one who wanted them as a real (life) couple.

During the filming of Tales of the South Seas and TLW Rachel and Will has significant others. Rachel/Sean and Will and Kim Kilbey. One of the things I've noticed about downunder papers they luv the "gos" as they call it. Even a whiff of something and a blind item makes it into the more notorious papers. All the articles and magazines I've read didn't have one ounce of gossip about the two as a, a, um more then friends. I know on the set of Tales of the South Seas, Will's first starring role, he worked 14 to 16 hour days (in high heat) in addition to working out in the AM. And he admitted to pretty much sacking out on the weekend. Kim, also was known to visit the location on weekends. Rachel was just getting to know Sean Smile

Dinner was delicious, thank you.... Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: Just don't get it Reply with quote

outlaw24 wrote:
LOL.

The thing i don't get and have never been able to get my head around is how do two actors with such obvious chemistry on screen, are able to be 'just friends' off camera? I don't understand it. I know they are actors and it's there job and all, but i think it is very rare to see two people on screen with the so much chemistry and not too mention a couple that looks really good together like Rachel Blakely and Will Snow! I saw a couple of episodes of 'Tales of the South Sea', a tv series that only lasted for one season but starred Rachel and Will. There characters never got together but had such chemistry on that show as well. The only other couple on a tv show that had some smoldering chemistry was Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher, who played Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman.

I guess i'm too much of a romantic, wanting these people to get together in real life. No disrespect to the partners Will and Rachel have chosen. : )


Hi outlaw24 and welcome! I'm with you and CAP on that one. I had to make myself behave and not wish those two would get together off screen. They are magical on screen and we are so fortunate to have gotten the chance to observe their chemistry in action. If Will had not been a strong enough actor, he would have been lost in the presence of the enchanting Rachel. It took a whole lot more than just good looks, a tan, charming smile, nice body...where was I? Oh yes, it took a lot to keep up with her. I have to give our great writers credit for mixing up the dialogue between them to keep us glued to The Lost World.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohhh yes! I do know what you're talking about. I'm one of those who misbehaved and wished them to be a real couple. Embarassed Of course, I don't mean any disrespect to Sean and Kim either,. I want Will & Rachel to be happy! Very Happy It's just that I don't get it either how such wonderful attractive and kind people with such a great chemistry won't fall in love. I know I would've fallen in love. LOL!

But I think it's good for them that they're only friends. I imagine it would make work a bit more complicated and maybe the chemistry would suffer as well. I'm really in awe how they managed to be just friends.

I just wish we would get another chance to see them together on screen! I'm a shipper. I've loved soooo many couples but those two have the best chemistry ever! It would be a waste to let it go...

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